Maegan Lujan: How To Thrive Despite Experiencing Impostor Syndrome

If we are not being true to who we are because we afraid of how we will look then we are also not allowing others to be true to who they are. It creates fear and blocks for everyone instead of authenticity. Figuring out who you are and how to share your story in a positive way inspires others and lifts them up.

As a part of our series about how very accomplished leaders were able to succeed despite experiencing Imposter Syndrome, I had the pleasure of interviewing Maegan Lujan.

Maegan Lujan is a brand strategist, business leader, and author on a mission to motivate and inspire others. Maegan’s journey has taken her from high risk in the foster system to high potential in Corporate or Fortune 500 boardrooms and beyond. She was recently named to the 2020 Top 100 Product Marketing Influencers list by the Product Marketing Alliance and the 2021 People to Watch List by The Cannata Report. Maegan’s tenacity has also earned her a nomination for the Women in Business Award from The Orange County Business Journal in both 2019 and 2020 and recognition as a 2016 Young Influencer and 2019 Woman of Influence by The Cannata Report. Both on-stage and off, Maegan enjoys assisting with and speaking out for causes associated with foster care, domestic violence, and youth development.

Thank you so much for joining us! Our readers would love to “get to know you” a bit better. Can you tell us a bit about your ‘backstory’?

Well, I grew up in Foster care and then I was out on my own at 14 years old. I didn’t go to high school or college. But I made my way in the world and climbed up the corporate ladder by starting as a temporary document scanner operator at a bank. Later on, I ran a lean entrepreneurial operation at Drivve which really fueled my entrepreneurial spirit. I stepped back into the corporate world landing my current role as a Director at Toshiba. And now I have expanded that into managing both my corporate career and starting my personal brand becoming an intrapreneur. More on that here. Talk about imposter syndrome! A teenager trying to be an adult. A non-college grad as a director in the male-dominated field of technology. Then I started wanting to build my own personal brand but I was afraid to tell my real story about where I came from. But I have started sharing and that has made all the difference.

Can you share with us the most interesting story from your career? Can you tell us what lessons or ‘take aways’ you learned from that?

I remember when I was just starting out in my professional career in the early 2000s and was working a full-time job managing loan portfolios and temporary jobs on the evenings and weekends.

One of the jobs I did in the evenings was “Admissions” for a college in GA at 11.50 per hour.. which is basically cold calling prospects. It was like living an old-school sales meme. I was toured through layers of the campus, seas of cubical, into an office, and back into a large conference room with more cubicles.

I was sat down at a dusty desk with a desk phone, pen, highlighter, and printed prospect list and told to just book in-person appointments for the admission staff. No training, scripts, or guidance. Truth be told, I hated that job. Every minute of it for the first three days, and then I ghosted them — professionally. I called the staffing agency up on my fourth day and told the truth. I appreciated the offer and I tried to do the work. It was hard. After hours of calling and dealing with brutally rude people, I was only booking 20-ish appointments per week. It was hard work, no one wants to get a cold call. Period. I didn’t like feeling as though I wasn’t making a contribution and getting beaten down in the process. I then went on to thank them and maintain the bridge built by saying this “considering I have an FT job, the PT job at $11.50 isn’t attractive and I would like to pass and end the remaining 6-month assignment”. It was a hard conversation to have, to be an adult and say, it’s not working and to have the talk.

What happened next blew my mind and changed my career path mindset forever.

Later that evening, after my shift was about to start, I received a call from the manager. He told me that he was really disappointed in me not returning and went on to tell me that the numbers I hit were 4x the volume of anyone else they’ve had in that role. He said he wanted to pay the agency to bring me on as a direct employee, PT, and that he wanted to know the price. We have all had those moments, where you have to leap and just state your worth. I shot high and said $18.50 he accepted. It blew my mind and here’s what I learned

  1. Having the hard talks in life opens up more possibilities and you learn to trust yourself a bit more.
  2. I didn’t know my worth and spent time feeling like an imposture when others had a totally different perspective.
  3. Everything is negotiable and you won’t know until you try.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

The company I work for Toshiba stands out because of our values. We value grit.

You have to be bold and take some risks. You have to be determined to figure things out and be creative. The support they provided me in launching my thought leadership and personal branding goals and helping me give back through my work with the Orangewood Foundation. Toshiba’s values are Agile, Bold, Creative, Determined, Empowered. I love that!

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

My LinkedIn Community.

LinkedIn community, you’ve helped me grow by encouraging me, pushing me, giving me honest feedback, and challenging me to be better today than yesterday. To continue showing up and providing value during one of the worst times in history: COVID-19. The positive affirmation I’ve received from you, encouraging me to write blogs and books, has been monumental. I cannot thank you enough!

Ok thank you for all that. Now let’s shift to the main focus of this interview. We would like to explore and flesh out the experience of Impostor Syndrome. How would you define Impostor Syndrome? What do people with Imposter Syndrome feel?

To me, Imposter Syndrome is feeling like you don’t belong. I grew up without a mother or father in foster care. I didn’t feel like I belonged. It is feeling inferior to someone else. The feeling did not stop when I was young. It didn’t stop as I climbed the corporate ladder. It did not stop when I received honors and accolades.

I was named a top influencer by the 2019 Cannata Report and for that honor, I needed to go out to New York and tell my story. I was there thinking, why am I here. I don’t deserve to be here. I didn’t feel successful enough.

It’s something you have to fight personally as an entrepreneur knowing everyone’s story and path are different. I’ve battled imposter syndrome since beginning my career. The truth is, I still do to an extent. I feel we all do, and that we need to experience this (in small doses of course) to be successful on our chosen paths.

It’s how you know that you are stretching into a new growth area. You have to be brave enough to suck at something new.

What are the downsides of Impostor Syndrome? How can it limit people?

Imposter Syndrome limits us by keeping us from taking risks. It can also keep us from asking for help when we need it and keep us from being humble enough to grow. We want to keep up an image or front on the outside but we have to let go of this to learn and be true to who we are. No one can be me. No one has my combination of skillsets, passion, and story.

How can the experience of Impostor Syndrome impact how one treats others?

If we are not being true to who we are because we afraid of how we will look then we are also not allowing others to be true to who they are. It creates fear and blocks for everyone instead of authenticity. Figuring out who you are and how to share your story in a positive way inspires others and lifts them up.

High-achieving individuals are marked by an inability to internalize their accomplishments and a persistent fear of being exposed as a “fraud.” Does that sound familiar?

In my experience, imposter syndrome is a feeling that you aren’t authentic. You have your skillset, belief sets, accomplishments and resume, knowledge, etc. yet you still don’t quite feel as though you are that person or that you’re deserving of being that person. As a result, you’re continually trying to improve yourself and overachieve and overdeliver.

It is something I think we all have to continue to work at. Leaders especially need to set the example to build authentic teams and authentic companies

We would love to hear your story about your experience with Impostor Syndrome. Would you be able to share that with us?

As I talked about before I have experienced Imposter Syndrome many times over. That instance where I was honored as a top influencer for the Cannata Report opened my eyes to ways that I could write and share my story through the platforms I’ve been given to let others know that who you are on paper, or who you have been, does not tell the end of your story.

You can change things. You get to be the CEO of your life.

Did you ever shake the feeling off? If yes, what have you done to mitigate it or eliminate it?

Taking time to reflect and get clarity is what helps me push past feeling like an imposter. Last year provided the time for me with the pandemic and got me on this new journey of helping corporate leaders build their personal brands not hiding who they are but by sharing.

In your opinion, what are 5 steps that someone who is experiencing Impostor Syndrome can take to move forward despite feeling like an “Impostor”? Please share a story or an example for each.

  1. Know who you are and what you want out of life. I have done this in my corporate career by taking assessments. It is hard to face your weaknesses and how others see you but it gives you the power to grow.
  2. Don’t be afraid to share your story. You can share it your way and you do not have to share everything. But know that your story connects you with humanity.
  3. Humanize yourself. Social media is supposed to be social. We’re not just building companies, we’re building communities
  4. Know that failure is ok. It is not the end of your journey but part of it. Failure always brings lessons and things we can take away for next time.
  5. Just keep going. You may have these feelings but don’t let them stop you from focusing and accomplishing your dreams and goals.

You are a person of great influence. If you could inspire a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the greatest amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

Normalizing the path to success by sharing the failures. People are craving the real, raw, and actionable stuff. Maybe tie this into building a personal brand. If you do this properly, you will go on a self-discovery and development journey. You will learn more about who you are, what you love to do, and how to share that with the world. And we all need it.

We are blessed that some very prominent leaders read this column. Is there a person in the world, or in the US, with whom you would love to have a private breakfast or lunch, and why? He or she might just see this, especially if we tag them 🙂

I’d love to spend time with Sophia Amoruso. She embodies the grit and grace that I bring to my day-to-day, has been there and done that vibes, and acts in ownership of her failures. I’m impressed with all the touchpoints of her brand.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/maeganlujan/

https://www.facebook.com/maegan.lujan/

https://www.facebook.com/maegan.lujan/

This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!


Maegan Lujan: How To Thrive Despite Experiencing Impostor Syndrome was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

Kraft Heinz SVP Rashida La Lande: “How Extremely Busy Executives Make Time To Be Great Parents”

It’s about being loving and kind and setting boundaries. I want to make sure my children have what they need to grow. I’m not a helicopter parent. It’s good to remember there are things I have to control and things I can’t. The really tough part about being a parent is when to give leeway and flexibility, and when not to.

As a part of my series about “How extremely busy executives make time to be great parents” I had the pleasure to interview Rashida La Lande, Global General Counsel and Head of ESG and Government Affairs at Kraft Heinz.

Rashida La Lande is Senior Vice President, Global General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Kraft Heinz. Prior to joining the Company in January 2018, Ms. La Lande was a partner at the law firm of Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, where she advised corporations and their boards, primarily in the areas of mergers and acquisitions, leveraged buyouts, private equity deals, and joint ventures. During her nearly 20 year career at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, she represented companies and private equity sponsors in the consumer products, retail, financial services, and technology industries.

Thank you so much for joining us! Can you tell us your “childhood backstory”?

I grew up in Jamaica, Queens, a very diverse neighborhood in New York City. I was extremely lucky to hit the parent lottery: they’re kind, loving and focused on learning. I’m great friends with them now and we talk every day.

Can you tell us a bit more about what your day to day schedule looks like?

Sure! I usually wake up around 7AM. I or my husband let out the dog and we start the process of getting our four children up and ready for school. The hardest is the 6-year-old. Even though she goes to a school that requires a uniform, there is a daily battle about her outfit and hair. My husband puts on music and based on the playlist, the children know whether they should be rushing or whether they have time to be leisurely. One of us will get breakfast ready for the four. I have to say, teeth brushing is the bane of my existence — my children will not do it on their own! Once everyone is off to school, I race upstairs and try to fit in a shower if there’s time before my first meeting. If not, I’m hoping I can take a shower during lunch. It’s a juggling act for sure. Though I try to keep normal work hours, I recognize that it’s all about the role. As general counsel, there have been times where things happen in the middle of the night that I need to attend to.

Ok, thank you for that. Let’s now jump to the core of our discussion. This is probably intuitive to many, but it would be beneficial to spell it out. Based on your experience or research, can you flesh out why not spending time with your children can be detrimental to their development? On the flip side, can you give a few reasons or examples about why it is so important to make time to spend with your children?

I tell my children all the time that my job is not to give them what they want, but to give them the skills to succeed in life. I take this job very seriously and to do it right I need to spend time with them and teach them the right things to do. But spending time with them helps me as well. It’s a way to charge my battery and to feel motivated. And I really enjoy all of it: reading them books before they go to bed, arguing over what’s a better book or who’s a better superhero, cooking together, baking together. I thrive on it. Most of the time it’s really enjoyable!

According to this study cited in the Washington Post, the quality of time spent with children is more important than the quantity of time. Can you give 3–5 stories or examples from your own life about what you do to spend quality time with your children?

For me, the only way to make everything work is by being super-organized. Up on my computer screen is a monthly view of my family’s life. I map it out every six months and color coordinate it by child. Work life balance is about understanding that there are periods of intensity around work, and periods where there is intensity around family life. Mom stress is a real thing, and this is a way to combat that. I include key Kraft Heinz dates as well — Board of Directors meetings, stockholder meetings, conventions. Every Sunday night I’m looking at my calendar to see which days are early days, late days. I look ahead to the short term, medium term and long term. Forethought and planning keeps it working. During the week, I also try not to overcomplicate things. If I have a late day and it’s my turn to cook, it’ll be something I can cook ahead of time, in between calls, like arroz con pollo in the pot.

How do you define a “good parent”? Can you give an example or story?

It’s about being loving and kind and setting boundaries. I want to make sure my children have what they need to grow. I’m not a helicopter parent. It’s good to remember there are things I have to control and things I can’t. The really tough part about being a parent is when to give leeway and flexibility, and when not to.

How do you inspire your child to “dream big”? Can you give an example or story?

It’s a multipronged approach but it starts with books! Books are really big in our family and always have been. Reading is always extremely important to us. One of us reads to the kids every night. We’re reading Anne of Green Gables — everyone loves it, even my 14-year-old. Our favorite books are The Little Engine That Could and Amazing Grace by Mary Hoffman, an incredible piece of African American feminist literature. It’s about a girl who wants to be Peter Pan in her school play. I also like to lead by example. Sometimes I’ll talk through issues at the dinner table and ask my children what they think. It’s all about getting those muscles trained.

How do you, a person who masterfully straddles the worlds of career and family, define “success”?

Success is me going as far with my career as I’m capable of and my children being generally happy, caring, hardworking, thoughtful and as successful as they want to be. I think these goals complement each other, especially in the context of leading by example.

What are your favorite books, podcasts, or resources that inspire you to be a better parent? Can you explain why you like them?

It full on takes a village! My advice is to take whatever help and guidance you can. I have a ton of mentors who I call on for all sorts of problems. I also rely on books to help. The book series from Your One Year Old to Your Nine Year Old by Louise Bates Ames, PhD and Frances Ilg M.D. are great. Another book that gets read in our house is Raising Lions by Joe Newman.

Can you please give us your favorite “Life Lesson Quote”? Can you share how that was relevant to you in your life?

I have a quote that I love because it perfectly incapsulates the importance of leading by example but also the importance of spending time with your children:

“Children have never been very good at listening to their elders, but they have never failed to imitate them.”
― James Baldwin


Kraft Heinz SVP Rashida La Lande: “How Extremely Busy Executives Make Time To Be Great Parents” was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

Women In Wellness: Nathalie Botros of The Bon-Vivant girl on the Five Lifestyle Tweaks That Will…

Women In Wellness: Nathalie Botros of The Bon-Vivant girl on the Five Lifestyle Tweaks That Will Help Support People’s Journey Towards Better Wellbeing

LET GO — Sometimes holding on to things can be more harmful than letting it go. I was so scared to LET GO that I got stuck in some points of my business. Letting go of a business partner or a project doesn’t mean failure but a small reboot to function better.

As a part of my series about the women in wellness, I had the pleasure of interviewing Nathalie Botros.

Nathalie Botros is the Founder of “The Bon-Vivant girl”, a lifestyle brand that helps women find Happiness without conditioning it on anything or anyone; and teaches women to love and accept themselves while enjoying every aspect of their life. She is also the author of “If You Are What You Eat, Should I Eat A Skinny Girl”, an anti-diet book that helps readers lose weight without losing their joy for life.

Nathalie is a self-proclaimed Happiness Fairy, spreading her Happiness Dust and Bon-Vivant girl Lifestyle through her publications, online courses, and her podcast.

Thank you so much for joining us in this interview series! Our readers would love to “get to know you” better. Can you share your “backstory” with us?

All of my life I was told that I needed to be skinny in order to be happy and healthy. I started my first diet at the age of 12 while attending boarding school in Switzerland, not because I was fat, but because everyone else was doing it. It was only the beginning of my serial dieter phase. In between diets, I was enjoying life — and during those sparkle periods of my life is when I would gain weight, which then led to the dark periods of my life — where I would start the latest fashionable diet and feel punished and miserable. The pattern got worse when I first moved to New York 15 years ago, and I gained 40 pounds in less than a year. I became obsessed with weight-loss and sadly didn’t lose any weight but instead, lost my appetite and joy for life.

After hitting rock bottom, I decided that I needed to change this harmful pattern and take charge of my life.

Instead of focusing on my food intake, I started by first grieving my old figure, while learning to love and accept myself with my current figure. It worked, and once I was at peace with my body shape, I started to shed all the weight.

The funny part is, today I gained some of that weight back, but guess what? I am Ok with it and actually look even better. Why? Because I have spent these last few years learning to love every inch of my body and to cherish all of my flaws, body, and personality — even turning them into qualities.

My rock bottom was the day that The Bon-Vivant girl was born with the sole purpose of helping others to understand that we should never attach our happiness to something or someone, but to ourselves: “Things and people will come and go, the only thing that stays is ourselves.”

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career? What were the main lessons or takeaways from that story?

I have several but this story makes me smile and proves that the happy, positive, and confident energy that we emit is particularly important.

Before launching The Bon-Vivant girl, I decided to do a photoshoot to have some good quality pictures for my brand and book. I hired a fashion photographer. He took great photos, told me that I was photogenic, but I couldn’t get any other compliment out of him. You know when someone says that you are photogenic but doesn’t say that you are beautiful, you’re not sure if it’s a compliment or not.

When I hired him again last summer for a new photoshoot, his attitude was completely different. He spent the day talking about my positive energy and how beautiful I was.

The main difference between the two photoshoots were 4 years, 30 pounds, and a lot of practice of what I am preaching: Self-Love and Acceptance.

This story shows that your age and weight are just a number, your energy is what makes you look beautiful, powerful, and successful.

You can see by yourself with these two photos.

Can you share a story about the biggest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

When I first started to write my book, I attended a book writing class and they kept asking the question: Why do you want to write this book? What is the purpose? I didn’t have a specific answer, I just wanted to write a book, share my story, and help people lose weight.

Once I wrote the book and published it, I understood what they meant with their questions, because I had no idea what my next step was. Should I become a coach, an author, a public figure — I genuinely had no idea.

It took 6 months along with consultant and public relations fees to finally discover what I really wanted, and what the purpose of my book was. My book wasn’t about weight loss after all, it was about seeking happiness via my story of having a love/hate relationship with my body.

I wish I had defined my purpose prior so I could have saved all of that time and money.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story about that?

I don’t have one person, but two: my mother and my sister.

They are my biggest supporters but also keep me grounded every step of the way. I don’t think I would be where I am today without them. I had a lot of doubts while I was building my brand, but their support made things easier.

I can have a great team behind me, but their opinion is the most important one, as they know my limits and my capabilities.

I will always be grateful for them.

Ok perfect. Now let’s jump to our main focus. When it comes to health and wellness, how is the work you are doing helping to make a bigger impact in the world?

The purpose of my work is to spread happiness and put a smile on everyone’s face. It can be through multiple channels, such as private coaching, my book, my online course, my publications and even my social media platforms.

The Bon-Vivant girl is a brand with the sole purpose of spreading Happiness Dust all over people and teaching them how to live fully without limitations!

The biggest reward is when I receive messages from my clients or followers telling me that I was the nudge that they needed in that moment to find Happiness or that I helped them to find their own self-love and confidence.

Every smile I put on someone’s face is a step towards a bigger impact, because I know that person will now put a smile on someone else’s face too.

Can you share your top five “lifestyle tweaks” that you believe will help support people’s journey towards better wellbeing? Please give an example or story for each.

If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of wellness to the most amount of people, what would that be?

I would ask people to help put a smile on at least one person’s face every day. It is a small and simple action that leaves a big impact.

You can do it by helping them, giving them some of your time, or even giving them a compliment.

This will create a ripple effect as that person can now pay it forward or “SMILE IT FORWARD”.

The process would make you and the other person happy.

What are your “5 Things I Wish Someone Told Me Before I Started” and why?

One — DEFINE

Whatever you decide to do, you need to DEFINE the outcome. I made that mistake with my book, and even my brand. You need to know what your target is, don’t start a business just to start something.

Two — MUTE

You are going to have a lot of opinions around you. Everybody is going to tell you what your brand should be. I made the mistake of listening to them at the beginning and got confused. Today, I still have all of those “suggestions”, and I know it comes from a good place, but I just MUTE them now.

Three — FAIL

I know right? How to succeed if we must fail first? You have to FAIL at least once in order to be able to learn from the mistakes and never do them again. I was so scared of failing that I never took any risks in the beginning. The important part is not failing or falling, it is how to rise up afterward.

Four — TAKE RISKS

Which comes to my fourth thing. You should TAKE RISKS, staying in your comfort zone will not bring you success. Today I keep taking risk, sometimes I am successful, and sometimes I fail but it makes me a better coach and businessperson.

Five — LET GO

Sometimes holding on to things can be more harmful than letting it go. I was so scared to LET GO that I got stuck in some points of my business. Letting go of a business partner or a project doesn’t mean failure but a small reboot to function better.

Sustainability, veganism, mental health, and environmental changes are big topics at the moment. Which one of these causes is dearest to you, and why?

Definitely mental health is the dearest to me because it seems that everyone is eager to take care of their physical health but dismisses taking care of their mental health.

Maybe it is due to the fact that the physical issues show up faster. I agree that the mental issues take longer to show up over time, but the damage could be deeper, and the consequences could be bigger.

Some people think that when we talk about mental health, we are only referring to mental illness, but it goes beyond that. It includes the way we cope with our daily life. It is our emotional, psychological, and social well-being. It affects our daily life more than anything else.

In the past talking about our mental health was considered taboo, but today we don’t have any excuses.

So why is it natural to go see your physician for a yearly check-up, but you disregard doing the same for your mental health?

Similar to a computer, if it has a problem with the hard drive, you can try to download an antivirus or cleaning software, but it won’t resolve the problem. The only way to fix the hard drive is to send it back to the factory.

The hard drive of a computer is similar to your mental health, it is the way that you function, your inner programming. You can buy all of the makeup and outfits that you want to decorate the outside, but it won’t resolve the inner issues. And being a human, sending you back to the factory is out of the question. Therefore, if you want to function properly, be in sync with your mental health and make it a priority.

What is the best way our readers can follow you on social media?

Check out my website The Bon-Vivant girl where you can find many tools to enhance your happiness, and also please check out my Instagram and YouTube Channel where I share weekly Happiness Tips.


Women In Wellness: Nathalie Botros of The Bon-Vivant girl on the Five Lifestyle Tweaks That Will… was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.